DC Comics New 52 Reading Order

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1. Kishimoto Masashi says

   April 12, 2019 at 8:14 am

   Your green arrow is very off. It references JL #8, when you have only put the first 6 issues down

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   • caleb says

     April 26, 2019 at 11:06 pm

     do you know where green arrow vol 8 and 9 slot in? before or after darkseid?

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2. Claude says

   May 30, 2018 at 7:01 am

   I wonder…under
   21) New 52 Year Two Redux
   21.2) New 52 Year Two Cont: Justice Leaguers
   The link for Justice League of America Vol 1 leads to the Bryan Hitch series. Is that correct or should it be going to the Geoff Jones Vol 1 Worlds Most Dangerous?

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   • Chris says

     June 19, 2018 at 3:47 pm

     World’s Most Dangerous. The list includes 14 issues of JLoA. The Bryan Hitch series only has 10 issues.

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3. Chris says

   March 29, 2018 at 7:53 pm

   Wouldn’t Flash Vol. 2 take place right after Vol. 1 as it picks up right where Vol. 1 left off?

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4. Damien says

   January 30, 2018 at 7:09 pm

   I have a question about the batman/superman comics, Volume one apparently has 32 issues in it, but volume 2 says that it’s made up of volumes 5-9 of B/S, so how do I read those?
   Great list BTW, wouldn’t be reading comics as much without it.

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   • KersouMan says

     February 6, 2018 at 12:41 pm

     Actually, Batman/Superman Volume 1 is the “name” of the ongoing series Batman/Superman that was published from 2013 to 2016 with 32 issues, 2 annuals and 1 special in it as listed here http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman/Superman_Vol_1. It is named Volume 1 because it was the first series with this name to be published (for example, the Batman series that was launched for the New 52 is Batman Volume 2 since it is the second ongoing series titled Batman and the Batman series that was launched with Rebirth is Batman Volume 3).
     However, the volume 1 mentionned in the reading order is Batman/Superman Cross World, the first collected containing issues 1 to 4 and issue 23.1 from the Justice League Volume 2 series. The volume 2 is the second collected containing thie issues 5 to 9 from Batman/Superman, the first annual issue and 2 issues from World’s Finest Volume 1.

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     • Dan says

       August 23, 2018 at 5:13 pm

       This kind of crap is what makes reading comics frustrating.

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       • JokersNuts says

         August 24, 2018 at 8:18 am

         It’s really not that difficult to understand, somehow I and many others have no problem. Reading comics is fun, not frustrating. If you really need help, look at the publishing dates on each trade you buy, that will give you an idea when it came out and where it falls in continuity

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5. andy says

   December 27, 2017 at 10:55 pm

   youre missing half of h’el on earths reading order…..where you start us superman has already been thrown out of his home and superboy has already been almost killed.

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6. BatsBatsBats14 says

   December 1, 2017 at 7:14 pm

   Ive been considering starting this. Relatively new to comics. Kinda got interested through Marvels new Star Wars comics for the canon reboot. Always loved superhero’s, but since I’m new to comics the entirety of the DC universe can be overwhelming when looking for an entry point to the content. The New 52 seemed like it might be a good starting point since I won’t have to worry about info I missed throughout decades of the previous continuity. I know they’ve moved on from this reboot in part with rebirth, but the new 52 seems like a cleaner starting point.

   The reason I’m favoring starting DC instead of marvel is bc Batman is my all time favorite superhero. Like second place not even close. I was curious that this reading order has an introduction volume for essentially every member of the bat family prior to Batman vol 1 even being listed. I just found this interesting bc with a reboot I would have thought you would see Batman first and each family member would as he brings them in and they develop in his storyline first. So I guess I am correct in assuming that this reboot does not build from the ground up? Essentially it just eradicated characters ‘set in stone’ history to free up authors from 70 years of stories to account for?

   I really took to how Marvel handled Star Wars. didn’t mind that the story lines weren’t chronologically released, but everything falls into a timeline and builds on itself. I know I got a little ramble-y. Hopefully someone got the gist of what I was asking haha. Thanks for any answers.

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7. Victor says

   October 21, 2017 at 2:39 pm

   It’s also missing Green Arrow Vol. 8 and Vol. 9

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8. Antonio says

   September 5, 2017 at 7:07 pm

   Hey so where is Action comics vol. 7 and 8?

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   • Victor says

     October 7, 2017 at 1:25 pm

     That’s what I’m wondering! There’s no Action Comics Vol 7 and 8 on this reading list

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     • Moustafa Sherif says

       January 13, 2018 at 4:02 am

       And where would they fit in this long list of reading sequence just curious ?

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9. Sal says

   September 3, 2017 at 7:40 am

   Hey, just wondering about blue beetle vol 3 in 12.2. Well there isn’t a vol 3 in new 52 and It gives a link to one from 2006, are you suggesting that I read that one, was this a mistake, or was something else supposed to be in its place. Please let me know if possible so I can continue this amazing order I would appreciate it.

   Ps: Amazing work can’t wait to keep this going and get farther you have to be the best at what you do

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   • Sal says

     September 3, 2017 at 7:43 am

     And if there is anyone who can help that would be nice

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     • José Tomás Gómez Rojas says

       March 28, 2019 at 9:22 pm

       Hi, is there any update on this?

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       • Ben says

         January 2, 2020 at 1:53 am

         If you still need to know, the Blue Bettle series ended at Volume 2

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10. Eric W. says

    August 10, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Outstanding list! This really helps me a lot, I just have one question.

    Where do the #0 issues fall in here?

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11. Joel R. says

    July 11, 2017 at 1:03 am

    Just started reading the new 52 as my first comics and love it and this site as a reference, although I’m barely finishing the batman/superman vol 1, they make references to the Darkseid war and battle w Brainiac and doomsday that I am yet to read, and as I would like to read the comics in a sort of linear fashion so not to miss/spoil anything, I’m wondering what your opinion would be to read them in order to achieve that ? Easier said then done I’d have to assume but any help would be appreciated (:

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12. Kian says

    July 9, 2017 at 3:04 am

    what is the reading order for the flash new 52 a justice league new 52 together including: trinity war, forever evil, the darkseid war power of god

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    • kian says

      July 9, 2017 at 3:08 am

      *and

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13. Pandawsome says

    June 27, 2017 at 12:21 am

    What do you mean by “Vol.#”? The collected editions? the DC definition of “Vol”???? Are they the issues ?????

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14. Brian says

    June 22, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    Where does Nightwing issue 30 come in since it isn’t part of Vol. 5? I feel like I’m missing something here

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15. Trevor says

    June 9, 2017 at 9:55 am

    Why is it you don’t have a 12.1, 12.5. Why does it start at 18.6 to 18.9 and not 1, 2 ,3? 21.5, 21.6, 21.7 are missing. There is a lot more.

    Is there a reason these aren’t there?

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16. Virgil says

    May 29, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Typically, I like your reading orders a lot, but this one–not so much. It’s not the issue-by-issue list I’ve been (unsuccessfully) looking for, rather, it’s a reading list through the collected editions, with a few add-ins here and there. The problem: some of the linked collected editions do not list the books they contain, so I can’t tell which books belong. There’s also the fact that this list doesn’t seem to cover every issue of the New 52, at least, I’ve been unable to find about two dozen of the comics in your list or in the linked collections (granted, some of these may belong to those collected editions that don’t include lists, but in some cases, missing books just don’t fit in these). Ah well, I still thank you for your efforts–yours is still my ‘go to’ site for reading orders, but guess I’ll have to continue my search elsewhere for New 52.

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    • Benjamin Gast says

      July 4, 2019 at 8:33 am

      Hey, just wondering if you found a site yet? I need one also. Thanks

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17. Brian says

    May 15, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    hey – do you still get the amazon referrals if I am clicking over to the Kindle version after clicking your link?

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    • Dave says

      May 22, 2017 at 1:23 pm

      I believe so – thanks for thinking of supporting the site!

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18. Tom says

    May 11, 2017 at 10:07 am

    I recently purchased The Flash volume 5: History Lessons but noticed some changes on the cover. The Flash title is now orange instead of white and the New 52 sign isn’t on it. I’ve looked on Amazon but the changes don’t appear. I have found a changed one on Ebay but still can’t find an explanation to why. Do these changes affect the story at all?

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19. JoAnn Price says

    May 2, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Hi Dave!
    My husband is a fan of all things graphic novel and comic…Thank goodness!

    I have recently accepted a position at my local library and, because he says our collection of graphic novels sucks, I have made it a point to increase the graphic novel collection significantly. Your site has been extremely helpful when it comes to finding the reading order.

    Thank you and keep up the great work!

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    • Dave says

      May 4, 2017 at 11:58 am

      That’s awesome! Thanks for the note 🙂

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20. LD says

    April 30, 2017 at 8:32 am

    There’s a few missing here:

    – All Star Western 6 (I think right after #5 is correct anyway)
    – Batman Beyond 1, 2, & 3 (After Future’s End, but before Convergence?)
    – Suicide Squad 5 (During Forever Evil)
    – New Suicide Squad 3 & 4
    – Rogues’ Rebellion & ARGUS (Forever Evil)
    – Catwoman 7 & 8
    – We Are Robin 2
    – Red Hood/ Arsenal 2
    – Gotham By Midnight 2
    – Kubert’s Damian Son of Batman
    – Poison Ivy Cycle of Life and Death (May not be canon)

    There’s so many to read, it’s really impressive that anybody has been as thorough as CBH or collectededitions.blogspot.

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21. Josh says

    April 4, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    Am I crazy or is All-Star Western Volume 6 missing from the list?

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    • kian says

      July 9, 2017 at 3:13 am

      it is missing

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22. Tom says

    February 24, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    I would advise placing The Flash volumes 1-3 back to back as Flash has no time to break between these events for Justice League volume 2. Same with Green Lantern volumes 1-3. Great list though

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23. adam Martin says

    February 22, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    I been reading these in order like the way you said to but i got to vol 2 of secret origins and started spoiling stuff that happens in new 52 storyline so not sure if you should put warning or something as it spoiled nightwing as i didnt know about grayson till now so i decided to skip it till i know there isnt anymore spoilers in the new 52 storyline.

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    • Dave says

      February 23, 2017 at 4:18 pm

      Good call, I moved Secret Origins down in the order!

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24. Tom says

    January 23, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    Incredible list but I still don’t understand how New 52 and Rebirth connect. Any ideas how I can easily understand?

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    • Tom says

      January 25, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      To make it easier, could you instead please tell me the essential Graphic Novels from the New 52 I need to understand Rebirth?

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      • I think I'm smart says

        February 5, 2017 at 2:03 pm

        Hey Tom, here’s something I posted on reddit to someone who had a similar question to what you have

        In 2011, DC comics published an event called Flashpoint. This centered around the character of the Flash and his ability to run so fast that he can actually travel back in time. The Flash runs back in time to prevent his mother from getting murdered. This, in turn, causes a domino effect. In other words, he screwed up the timeline and created a world where he wasn’t the Flash, Bruce Wayne’s father became Batman instead, Superman was captured by the government, it was a mess. The Flash recovered his powers and again used his time-travel ability to try to fix what he did, even if it did include having to let his mom die.
        However, he didn’t fix everything back to the way it was. This is where DC’s The New 52 was born. After Flashpoint, DC rebooted their titles, meaning they essentially started over. The New 52 consisted of 52 new titles. Each of these titles, like Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Teen Titans, etc. were all restarted, meaning what happened before Flashpoint didn’t matter or affect the characters in the New 52. What I’m trying to say is “The New 52 was a jumping-on point for new readers.” You could go in knowing NOTHING about a character and not be confused.
        However, there are some exceptions when I say “What happened before Flashpoint doesn’t matter.” Some stories like “The Death of Superman” still happened. In addition the continuity of the characters Batman and Green Lantern were almost all retained.
        But you might be wondering, “what about everything that happened before Flashpoint?” It all goes back to 1985 in a comic called “Crisis on Infinite Earths” (don’t read it, it’s absolute shit, but the aftermath is huge). This was ANOTHER reboot done by DC and created a new continuity. This continuity lasted until Flashpoint, which was over 35 years!
        I’m probably losing you here, so let’s recap.
        Crisis on Infinite Earths: 1985 —–> after 35+ years——-> Flashpoint (2011) ———-> New 52 is created, most of what happened in-between Crisis on Infinite Earths and Flashpoint is erased from history.
        As you can expect, some people were not happy that DC decided to simply act like the 35 years worth of stories before Flashpoint never happened. DC kinda acknowledged that they screw up a bit, so, slowly but surely, they are working on bringing Post-Crisis continuity (everything between Crisis and Flashpoint) into the New 52 Universe.
        So where does rebirth come in? During the course of the New 52, DC was slowly adding Post-Crisis stuff back to the New 52. Rebirth is a GIANT step forward in this.

        I would assume that you’re reading Rebirth now, so I’d suggest looking up summaries of the New 52 Series (some series are really awesome and I’d suggest a read, like Batman, for example). The 2 important series that set the stage for Rebirth are Convergence (which is really shitty, imo) and Titans Hunt (slightly better)

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        • Tom says

          February 6, 2017 at 1:15 am

          Thank you so much, this is really helpful

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          • Tom says

            February 16, 2017 at 3:13 pm

            Do I have to read the rest of the Teen Titans ark to understand Titans Hunt?

25. Luis says

    January 22, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    Awesome list — I’ve been away from the DCU for a few years now and would like to read the most important New 52 stories before I dive into the whole Rebirth universe. I was lost, but now I have a clearer path to follow. Thank you so much for this.

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26. Matthew Wilks says

    January 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Where does the Batman: The Dark Knight series fall into the New 52 reading order?

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27. Tom says

    January 6, 2017 at 7:55 am

    You should add Green Lantern volume 8 and The Flash volume 8

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28. Alexander says

    December 30, 2016 at 11:34 am

    Hi Dave, would you compress this one into an ‘Essentials’-type list one day? Say, ’25 Comic Titles from the New 52 Which Are Absolutely Essential to Understand Rebirth’, the way you did for Marvel NOW! or pre-Flashpoint 2000s DC? This could be both awesome and completely necessary for us newcomers. Even as a soft reboot, Rebirth still relies too heavily on all the previous developments, and reading the WHOLE of pre-history since 2011 (or before?!) is something barely feasible…

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    • Dave says

      January 2, 2017 at 9:55 pm

      This is a very good idea…

      Perhaps in the near future.

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29. Artur says

    December 7, 2016 at 11:26 am

    I’ve just started reading the new 52 and im kinda new to comic books so i wanted to ask if this list is complete and why should i skip batman vol 5 in the reading order?

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    • Dave says

      December 7, 2016 at 2:10 pm

      Hi Artur,

      I don’t recommend you skip Batman vol. 5. It’s placed way up front in the Zero Year section, since these comics actually occur the earliest in the New 52 timeline. That’s weird, I know 🙂

      This list is as complete as I can make it, and I’m always looking to update as new info becomes available.

      Enjoy the comics!

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30. Tom says

    November 28, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    You’re only missing a handful now. List is almost done!!

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31. Thalia says

    November 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    Thank you so much for this. I’ve seen the superheroes movies and the tv shows and I had no Idea on where to start reading comic books. I think this would be an awesome start thanks for the guide.

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32. Dan says

    November 9, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Loving your work Dave!

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33. Am says

    October 29, 2016 at 8:50 am

    I just want to say, you are an SEO and inbound LEGEND!!

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    • Dave says

      October 30, 2016 at 11:33 am

      Haha thanks

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34. Levi says

    October 23, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Where is Damian: Son of Batman or Grayson Vol. 5? Just curious as your list is INCREDIBLE! Thanks a million!

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35. Tyler says

    October 19, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    You’ve got the wrong Nightwing Vol. 3 linked, just so you know.

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36. NAOMI says

    October 12, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    This contradicts your superman reading order, here you have us reading Action comics vol. 1-4 before the superman comics which crossover with eachother. And you dont mention the superman paperbacks until section (3.0 with the supergirl and superboy comics so i am kind of confused on how to approach….. I have already read Justice League Vol. 1 and Action Comics Vol. 1-4 and i noticed in #24 that it is the second part of a two part story arc.

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37. bryan ritchie says

    October 8, 2016 at 5:40 am

    I am also a bit confused. there are no shazam? I am attempting to collect all of the new 52 and this has been very helpful. is this a list strictly of continuity? missing out volumes because they don’t fit in? I am looking for an entire list, if anyone could help I would be very grateful

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    • Dave says

      October 8, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      Good call on Shazam, I’ve added it to section 8.2!

      There shouldn’t be any missing volumes at this point, it’s a complete list to my knowledge!

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38. Lemon Drops says

    October 2, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    Hey, I was a bit confused as some volumes seemed to be missing such as Deathstroke Vol. 3 (It just jumps straight to Vol. 4).

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39. Zach says

    September 29, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    It seems like the last few volumes of Batman and Justice League play jump rope with the continuity. Darkseid War seems to take place after convergence, but the ending of Endgame makes it impossible for Bruce to be there.

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40. Len Pallazola says

    August 24, 2016 at 2:58 am

    This list is super awesome and I’m so glad you finally made it. Where’s “I Vampire” though?

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41. chuki says

    August 18, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    Fist, where’s batman : the dark knight vol. 1 is set?
    Second, there’s a lot of comics that aren’t there, like the continuity of the flash, the last vol of green lantern, maybe more, so i’m a bit confusing.

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42. Will says

    August 15, 2016 at 9:40 am

    This is extremely helpful. I just wanted to point out one continuity glitch early on. You have Action Comics Vol 2 before Justice League Vol 1, but Superman meets with the Justice League in AC #10, included in AC Vol 2, and it seems to be after the events of JL Vol 1. But again, this is great. Thank you for all your work putting this together.

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43. Mihir Patwa says

    August 10, 2016 at 3:39 am

    Amazing work on the list, by just a question, is the Batman series actually part of continuity, because the justice league stories dint really seem to tie in with Batman at all?

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44. Jonathan says

    July 22, 2016 at 9:31 am

    I am finding this website very useful, it is odd that there aren’t really any definitive reading order lists for the New 52. I am a voracious collector of DC Comics and organize all my tpb’s in order of continuity. I am having a lot of trouble figuring out the order for the last couple years of DC Comics. From Batman Endgame – Present. Justice League Darkseid War features Bruce Wayne as Batman so must take place after Batman and Robin Eternal. It cannot take place before Batman Endgame because of his new revelations about The Joker at the end of Darkseid War. Also, the first chapter of Darkseid war references Brainiac’s machinations in Convergence. I am more willing to place Convergence a lot earlier despite this single reference, as not much else is affected.
    Thanks for creating this website

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    • Michael Bellonis says

      November 17, 2017 at 6:01 pm

      I’m also super curious about this part of the continuity. Taking the ending of Batman: Endgame into consideration, I started reading Batman and Robin Eternal (according to the Reading Order, that’s the next step in the main Bat-Family stories), and I feel like there’s…something missing. They start referencing the ‘New Batman’, a robotic Batman in the streets, “Bruce doesn’t remember my face,”, etc. Where is all of this established? It’s not the end of Endgame, and the next logical step would be Batman Vol 8, but that doesn’t hop on the reading order until much later.

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45. Blake says

    July 14, 2016 at 7:10 am

    Nice work, reading through now. Noticed that Justice League Dark Vol. 2 and I, Vampire Vol. 2 crossover, but you haven’t included the Rise of the Vampires event.

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46. Josh says

    July 12, 2016 at 4:00 am

    Why are some of them out of order? Such as the Justice League origins…the issues are 3, 4, 1, 2. I would think it would be 1, 2, 3, 4. Not trying to be rude, I’m just curious.

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47. ConcernedCitizen says

    July 6, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    This is great. Any chance to create a DC Rebirth reading order guide? Thanks for doing these guides it helped a lot especially on the older storylines.

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    • Dave says

      July 6, 2016 at 7:17 pm

      Glad you enjoy!

      Unless DC starts comping me Rebirth issues out of the goodness of their hearts, a Rebirth order is off my radar. I’m sure I’ll start to consider as the trades are released, though.

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      • ConcernedCitizen says

        July 7, 2016 at 1:47 pm

        I guess I’ll just have to wing it for now. More power, Dave. This site rocks!

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        • Dave says

          July 8, 2016 at 1:22 pm

          Thank you!

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48. Juan says

    July 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    Great list, thanks for doing this now I can start reading with a good order, just one question, would you update it to include:
    Batman/Superman Vol. 5
    Detective Comics Vol. 8
    Detective Comics Vol. 9
    JUSTICE LEAGUE: Gods And Men (Darkseid War)
    ??
    Hope you do, best regards and agaig, thanks for doing this.

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49. Balzamike says

    June 15, 2016 at 7:08 am

    Wow, just started to read comics and after a week into the darkness of continuity, I’ve found your article…. You’ve done such an amazing work, thank you for that.
    Big kiss from France.

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    • Dave says

      June 15, 2016 at 5:11 pm

      haha thanks! enjoy the comics!

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50. Sean says

    June 8, 2016 at 3:41 am

    It seems to me like a fine list. And the first I’ve found that continues beyond Convergence. However,
    there are some points I’ve found.
    – Batgirl, Vol. 2 has #7-12, #9 is part of the Night of the Owls event, however Vol. 2 is placed way
    after it. How come?
    – Justice League Dark, Vol. 4 constists of #22-29, however #22-29 are part of the Trinity War and
    Forever Evil events. Vol. 4 however, is placed just after the Throne of Atlantis event, way before it.
    – The link to Supergirl, Vol. 3 isn’t going to the New 52 Supergirl, Vol. 3, but the one from the
    previous run. Here’s the correct link: http://www.amazon.com/Supergirl-Vol-Sanctuary-New-
    52/dp/1401243185/182-6024374-9285539?ie=UTF8&keywords=supergirl%20vol
    %203&qid=1465314471&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books-intl-de&sr=1-1
    – Supergirl, Vol. 3 comes mostly after the H’el on Earth event, as the event has #16-17 and Vol. 3 has
    #13-20.
    – Green Lantern, Vol. 4 consists of #21-26+Annual #2, half of it, though, is part of the Lights Out
    event, which comes later, so how does the placement work here?
    – Batman: The Dark Knight, Vol. 5 does not exist (it links to the wrong Batman series volume). Vol. 4
    (#22-29) was the last of its run.
    – Where did Batwoman, Vol. 4 go?
    – Nightwing, Vol. 3 consists of #19-25, but is set before the Death of the Family event that has #15-16,
    so what’s the reason for that?
    – Green Lantern, Vol. 5 has a good chunk of it being involved with the Red Daughter of Krypton event,
    its placement is before it, though. Same goes for Red Lanterns, Vol. 5.
    – Where is Supergirl, Vol. 7?
    – We Are Robin, Vol. 1 is placed two times. What’s the correct one?
    – Where is a huge chunk of the DC You period comics?
    – Superman: American Alien is an Elseworld story, I believe.
    – Injustice is in its fifth year now, and it is its last.
    Remember, this is not to slam the list down, but rather to enhance it.

    Also, is there any chance that the Marvel NOW! reading order will be finished? It’s still missing the
    last part up to Secret Wars.

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    • Dave says

      June 16, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      Thanks for all that feedback! I’ve incorporated a bunch and will continue working on enhancing. DC YOU in particular will see some more additions as those become clearer.

      For Marvel NOW, a full sweep in on the list!

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